Any interest in LibreTime available as a SaaS with hosting and support?


#1

Continuing the discussion from LibreTime on AWS:

Inspired by another open source project, I’m curious to gauge interest an early stage beta along similar lines -

  1. Find 10 or so adventurous stations or podcasters to join the BETA
  2. Gather use cases from them to cover the critical features of all sites
  3. Build, migrate and launch each site
  4. Iterate for 12-ish months until we have something solid and generally usable
  5. Launch the first version of the SaaS “self-service plan”, ending the beta period, and moving to general availability

Throughout the beta and beyond, all of the code, documentation, and related materials for the platform will be publicly available and contributed back to LibreTime https://github.com/libretime

What if the initial beta pricing and service levels would be similar to the Premium level of Airtime Pro? Are there stations using LibreTime or Airtime that might have an interest?


#2

I would probably try it, as long as it is more affordable. Airtime Pro gives so little storage for the dollar that it’s just out of my reach, my radio is a hobby more than anything else.


#3

I think you could deploy an LT system, from a mostly configured, repacked Libretubuntu ISO image in minutes and it might be would be easier for low numbers. Just rent it out the vps instance. You can run LT on a $3.80/m VPS, I have done it, so it must be possible. Just find a VPS provider that allows you to upload a suitable image for deploying. Using a very simple ffmpeg 3 line bash script, you can stream radio to youtube with a ‘Postcard’ video image and that solves your bandwidth problem.


#4

Thanks @facundoand and @JohnnyC1951for the feedback so far. I think the ideal would be multiple SaaS offerings and price points eventually. It might be to easier initially to determine just one price/service level that would make sense for enough stations to prepay for an early stage beta that would also help fund development of a stable downloadable version.

Is there any price/service level that would work for a comparable LibreTime beta?


#5

Yeah, the challenge is the whole package can either be offered ad-hoc with minimal support or someone will need to make this their job and basically take on client-level servicing of requests. There are still quite a few missing features such as FTP based import that would make the service lacking for anyone wanting to use it out of the box. There is also a lack of quota/disk space and S3 integration because these were commented out. Right now LibreTime isn’t designed to compete with Airtime.pro and while this could be done it would take a dedicated developer to spend a month of their time working on it. The potential reward and hassle isn’t necessarily lucrative.


#6

The goal of the beta would be to release a version of LibreTime that ‘could’ be available as SaaS. The 10 or so stations or podcasters would have early access to whatever would be developed during the beta, but funds would be allocated to develop the product.


#7

There is already a SaaS version that is similar enough for most people willing to pay considering we forked from Airtime.pro code and they’re still offering that service(last I checked). They had full-time developers and a well-funded enough organization and they still struggled to make enough funds to cover their developer costs. At the same time it could be done but I think that putting together something like this through part-time labor and fully remotely coordinated would be challenging and not necessarily result in the intended outcome as presented in this proposal. We have been at something of an impasse recently and I personally am figuring out the next steps but even as I type my attention is being pulled away to go help my wife with our daughter so without my schedule allowing me to concentrate more fully on the project then I don’t think I can make any promises.


#8

There is already a SaaS version that is similar enough for most people willing to pay considering we forked from Airtime.pro code and they’re still offering that service(last I checked).

Is it LibreTime or a seperate fork of Airtime.pro code?

At the same time it could be done but I think that putting together something like this through part-time labor and fully remotely coordinated would be challenging and not necessarily result in the intended outcome as presented in this proposal.

What I posted here several months ago was more of an idea inspired by an unrelated OSS project https://www.mydropwizard.com/blog/free-migration-to-drupal-8-for-nonprofits

Without going into too much detail, I think this type of model (customers fund early access to their beta - hosting is done via a partner - support is done via a partner) could be one way to keep a team focused on LibreTime Development Priorities.


#9

No the SaaS version I was referring to was Airtime.pro itself. It is still there for anyone who has money and is interested in the functionality and basic level of technical support. The only major difference between the two products is we have an automatic playlist scheduler and they have an Auto-DJ functionality. I don’t think they’ve added a lot of new functionality aside from revamping the radio front page and adding geo-blocking. The biggest critiques I’ve heard of their service is the price and amount of storage they offer are rather limited. But like I said it would take a serious endeavor to launch a SaaS and I personally am not interested in that at this point, at least not in the typical sense of how most SaaS products are marketed.