# OpenCollective to help sustain the project and community

**URL:** <https://discourse.libretime.org/t/opencollective-to-help-sustain-the-project-and-community/84>\
**Category:** Community\
**Created:** [January 18, 2018, 3:54am UTC](https://discourse.libretime.org/t/opencollective-to-help-sustain-the-project-and-community/84 "2018-01-18T03:54:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![gusaus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/discourse.libretime.org/gusaus/32/42_2.png) [@gusaus](https://discourse.libretime.org/u/gusaus)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 9:26pm UTC](https://discourse.libretime.org/t/opencollective-to-help-sustain-the-project-and-community/84/21 "2018-10-23T21:26:35Z")

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The following excerpts from an ongoing conversation with the same folks behind [this complimentary initiative](https://www.cpb.org/pressroom/nfcb-receives-cpb-grant-strengthen-service-rural-areas) should further illustrate the potential benefits of creating an Open Collective for LibreTime…

> <https://twitter.com/gusaus/status/1053049771974287360>

[https://twitter.com/eaXLR/status/1053104462426980354](https://twitter.com/eaXLR/status/1053104462426980354)

> <https://twitter.com/gusaus/status/1053337352347639808>

[https://twitter.com/eaXLR/status/1053344900031246336](https://twitter.com/eaXLR/status/1053344900031246336)

Open Collective provides a platform and community that would enable LibreTime to increase contributions and grow it’s community by collaborating with complimentary OSS projects, nonprofit organizations, and funded initiatives.

If we can table the issue of needing a clear policy before considering paying developers (again - that would be a next step - we’d create a github issue), are there valid reasons why we wouldn’t want Open Collective as a tool to enable collaboration and community?

I would be happy to run point as the community liaison/outreach type.

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**Author:** ![gusaus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/discourse.libretime.org/gusaus/32/42_2.png) [@gusaus](https://discourse.libretime.org/u/gusaus)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 2:07am UTC](https://discourse.libretime.org/t/opencollective-to-help-sustain-the-project-and-community/84/22 "2018-12-12T02:07:51Z")

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The following webinar provides a great amount of information about OpenCollective and how other OSS projects and communities are using to help sustain and facilitate collaboration. Possibly there enough here to alleviate concerns that have prevented maintainers from wanting to create a collective for LibreTime.

> **[Webinar with Pia, overview of the Open Collective Platform](https://forum.opencollective.com/t/webinar-with-pia-overview-of-the-open-collective-platform/133)**
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> Thanks to @piamancini for walking a group of us through the Open Collective platform. It was super valuable and I really appreciate her taking the time to explain a lot of the platform, the roadmap, and the vision. Griffin from Colony was there and...

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**Author:** ![paddatrapper](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/discourse.libretime.org/paddatrapper/32/675_2.png) [@paddatrapper](https://discourse.libretime.org/u/paddatrapper)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 7:00pm UTC](https://discourse.libretime.org/t/opencollective-to-help-sustain-the-project-and-community/84/23 "2019-04-08T19:00:25Z")

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I think an Open Collective is an attractive idea. Being able to give key developers even a token amount would be useful. I am not sure there are many companies and organisations willing to contribute to LibreTime’s on-going development (this may well change after 3.0.0 though). It would be useful to have some sort of support structure set up before then though so that when potential backers to come, we have somewhere to point them to.

We would need guidelines around who gets paid, etc. (Maybe some sort of bug bounty?) The project maintainers or project admins should probably be the ones managing the collective too, but we need solid guidelines around their selection and delegation too.

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**Author:** ![gusaus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/discourse.libretime.org/gusaus/32/42_2.png) [@gusaus](https://discourse.libretime.org/u/gusaus)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2019, 10:11pm UTC](https://discourse.libretime.org/t/opencollective-to-help-sustain-the-project-and-community/84/24 "2019-04-08T22:11:54Z")

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> [@paddatrapper](#):
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> Being able to give key developers even a token amount would be useful.

As noted above, there could be many ways we could leverage the platform and community.

> [@gusaus](#):
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> - Incentivize time on [LibreTime Development Priorities](https://discourse.libretime.org/t/libretime-development-priorities/51)
> - [Update and create new documentation](https://github.com/LibreTime/libretime/issues/376), tutorials, and training materials
> - Cover hosting cost for marketing and/or demo site(s)
> - Project management, community, outreach, marketing

> [@paddatrapper](#):
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> It would be useful to have some sort of support structure set up before then though so that when potential backers to come, we have somewhere to point them to.

Many OSS projects on Open Collective are still trying to sort out a process. We’re already setting ourselves up to not only share ideas, but collaborate with complementary projects and communities. [List LibreTime on alternativeto.net · Issue #782 · libretime/libretime · GitHub](https://github.com/LibreTime/libretime/issues/782#issuecomment-479150383)

One such project, Open Broadcaster Software (OBS), provides some inspiration for how to incorporate Open Collective as a way to sustain. [New Ways to Support OBS Development | OBS](https://obsproject.com/blog/new-ways-to-support-obs-development)

> [@paddatrapper](#):
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> We would need guidelines around who gets paid, etc. (Maybe some sort of bug bounty?)

It would probably make sense to create an issue in our github repo and work out a process in the open. Again there are many other projects experimenting with bounty programs that can serve as inspiration

> **[JHipster’s Bounty System and how it saved the project.](https://medium.com/open-collective/jhipsters-bounty-system-and-how-it-saved-the-project-cc118888f642)**
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> The back story.

> [@paddatrapper](#):
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> The project maintainers or project admins should probably be the ones managing the collective too, but we need solid guidelines around their selection and delegation too.

Unless there are maintainers against the idea of having a LibreTime Open Collective, I’d suggest that one of the project leads apply and invite anyone else who would like to help manage. We could then create an issue in github to work out our guidelines.

There’s also much-improved documentation on the Open Collective side -

> **[Collectives FAQ](https://docs.opencollective.com/help/collectives/collectives)**

Possibly the time is right to finally do this? Let me know if I can help.

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**Author:** ![paddatrapper](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/discourse.libretime.org/paddatrapper/32/675_2.png) [@paddatrapper](https://discourse.libretime.org/u/paddatrapper)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2019, 11:41am UTC](https://discourse.libretime.org/t/opencollective-to-help-sustain-the-project-and-community/84/25 "2019-04-09T11:41:14Z")

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I’ve created [https://github.com/LibreTime/libretime/issues/796](https://github.com/LibreTime/libretime/issues/796) to track the thoughts on this. Based on that feedback, we can decide what our next move is

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**Author:** ![gusaus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/discourse.libretime.org/gusaus/32/42_2.png) [@gusaus](https://discourse.libretime.org/u/gusaus)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 1:15am UTC](https://discourse.libretime.org/t/opencollective-to-help-sustain-the-project-and-community/84/26 "2019-06-29T01:15:15Z")

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For those who missed it, @robbt @paddatrapper and some other community members weighing in here and [here](https://github.com/LibreTime/libretime/issues/796) agreed to create [https://opencollective.com/libretime](https://opencollective.com/libretime)

We’ve created a #sustain channel in [https://libretime.slack.com/](https://libretime.slack.com/) to discuss Open Collective and other platforms/partnerships/etc. that would help us sustain and grow LibreTime. The room is open 24/7 - please join in anytime!

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**Author:** ![Togar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/discourse.libretime.org/togar/32/184_2.png) [@Togar](https://discourse.libretime.org/u/Togar)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 1:59am UTC](https://discourse.libretime.org/t/opencollective-to-help-sustain-the-project-and-community/84/27 "2019-09-05T01:59:02Z")

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> [@gusaus](#):
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> We’ve created a #sustain channel in [https://libretime.slack.com/](https://libretime.slack.com/) to discuss Open Collective and other platforms/partnerships/etc. that would help us sustain and grow LibreTime. The room is open 24/7 - please join in anytime!

Is this still a thing? How can I join?

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**Author:** ![gusaus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/discourse.libretime.org/gusaus/32/42_2.png) [@gusaus](https://discourse.libretime.org/u/gusaus)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 2:20am UTC](https://discourse.libretime.org/t/opencollective-to-help-sustain-the-project-and-community/84/28 "2019-09-05T02:20:07Z")

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> [@Togar](#):
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> Is this still a thing? How can I join?

Looks like everybody will be able to join [https://chat.libretime.org](https://chat.libretime.org) very soon - [https://github.com/LibreTime/libretime/issues/538#issuecomment-528109097](https://github.com/LibreTime/libretime/issues/538#issuecomment-528109097)

There are also some related collaborations happening in #communitymedia #openproducer channels in Open Collective’s Slack [https://slack.opencollective.com/](https://slack.opencollective.com/)

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**Author:** ![gusaus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/discourse.libretime.org/gusaus/32/42_2.png) [@gusaus](https://discourse.libretime.org/u/gusaus)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 12:55am UTC](https://discourse.libretime.org/t/opencollective-to-help-sustain-the-project-and-community/84/29 "2019-09-21T00:55:54Z")

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Just FYI Open Collective is about to roll out improvements to the collective page. It should provide a more intuitive way to create campaigns for stuff like reaching a milestone, funding new features, and [other ways to sustain the project](https://discourse.libretime.org/t/libretime-services-and-other-ways-to-sustain-the-project/326).

You can test by dropping in “/v2” at the tail end of the url -

> **[LibreTime - Open Collective](https://opencollective.com/libretime/v2)**
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> Radio Broadcast & Automation Platform

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**Author:** ![gusaus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/discourse.libretime.org/gusaus/32/42_2.png) [@gusaus](https://discourse.libretime.org/u/gusaus)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2019, 10:13pm UTC](https://discourse.libretime.org/t/opencollective-to-help-sustain-the-project-and-community/84/30 "2019-09-23T22:13:28Z")

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> [@gusaus](#):
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> Open Collective is about to roll out improvements to the collective page.

The improvements have been rolled out [LibreTime - Open Collective](https://opencollective.com/libretime)

@robbt @paddatrapper as admins of the collective, you might want to check out this thread -

[https://twitter.com/opencollect/status/1176221187854221316](https://twitter.com/opencollect/status/1176221187854221316)

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**Author:** ![gusaus](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/discourse.libretime.org/gusaus/32/42_2.png) [@gusaus](https://discourse.libretime.org/u/gusaus)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2019, 7:13pm UTC](https://discourse.libretime.org/t/opencollective-to-help-sustain-the-project-and-community/84/31 "2019-10-10T19:13:08Z")

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@Togar Join us! [https://chat.libretime.org/signup\_user\_complete/?id=yxmj5s71a7yhjmixsjd86wjm8w](https://chat.libretime.org/signup_user_complete/?id=yxmj5s71a7yhjmixsjd86wjm8w)

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